thelovejacket: so lets make a reasonable estimate of our lives. let's say 80 year lifespan average (i'm still sticking to 120 lol). we've already lived out about 20 years and can proudly say that we have settled a lot of annoying emotional shit problems out of the way - here we can focus our life purpose and over all happiness. let's look at the horizon: the number one looming problem is the environment. the more we keep ignoring it, the worse it gets despite so many people trying to protect it. they estimate huge changes by 2020 - and that's when we're only 32. then it's the growing political problems - everyone over the world has drastically different policies and it creates a lot of tension and it makes me ..not nervous .hm. more curious, but still very cautious of the upcoming events. a wrong move can do a lot wrong, especially in the middle east (even though they've always been kinda NUTS!) on the same hand, a lot of good can be done too. like finally a working UN. and with such awesome world communications a lot of WOLRD organizations are springing up, which connects everyone and its a bout damn time. then it's the natural resource which quite frankly are almost at a null. if the problem is ignored, they will end within our lifetimes. wouldn’t that suck? but at the same time with things such as nanotechnology, we would be able to manufacture everything, from water to carrots, to tiny tin tiny computers with mass amounts of storage space - and if it works, then also in the upcoming 20 years or so. everything seems to collide in this general area and its all very very curious. very curious. i'm not talking about the end of the world or anything of the sort (although, LIKELY) but every generation has this BIG THING which we look back upon. i really makes me wonder what ours will be. there are so many possibilities. what worries me most is the schism between progress and regress. progress in the physical world mainly with technology and communications and living conditions and the regress in the moralistic world and pure humanism. to me, this is exactly what makes the future so difficult to predict - everything is improving and degrading at the same time and i have no idea what the world would look like in 2020. its as if most humans are conscious of this split as well, and they're not sure which side to pick and so far unable to utilize both.
Rosenoir14010: ok
Rosenoir14010: i typed up a huge thing
thelovejacket: kay!
Rosenoir14010: but i realized you really summed everything up extremely well. i love your balance between the excitement of upcoming technological advances and the decline of human nature. though in essence, i don't think we've changed all that much. it's just getting completely out of control because there are so many people in the world now. centuries ago there were much fewer and everything was kept under better control but it's impossible to keep things in order now and in response to that they're trying to document every breath we take in an electronic database and that's sort of counterproductive. i don't know, i have no idea how we'd go about solving things. i think i'm more of a natural follower. my ideal future has explosive advances like missions to mars and everyone CHILLING THE FUCK OUT and working together toward the the furtherment of our human race. which sounds kind of socialist i guess, but that's not what i mean....
thelovejacket: everyone CHILLING THE FUCK OUT a
thelovejacket: lol. precisely.
thelovejacket: i like to think through these things. i see, over population is a problem. and mainly ...everyone has a huge impact EVERYWHERE. ages ago things were a lot more local. country vs. county, trade routes, a passing depression etc etc, right? the impacts mostly stayed in one area. now a days if anything happens in like ..canada somebody in croatia will be going "HEY!!? >:o hang on a minute!!" but people are not considering these new dimensions, we still seem to look on a local scale because you know , its all about 'us'. additionally, what really pisses me off is the network of global economy. it's probably the most forgotten, best functional, inter and intra connecting web in existence and it's used for CRAP. i mean yes, we get our supplies, but its extremely corrupt. the tribal warrior-kings had the same kind of unlimited power 4,000 ages ago as some of the modern businessmen. there's about a handful of leading organizations/companies which drastically monopolize the world and we're the happy serfs. that makes me mad. mad because its true because the 'unseen' is the 'un existent' and there nothing more cloaked than macroeconomy
thelovejacket: :[
Rosenoir14010: well, that's the selfishness coming into play. everyone in the world working to become to the richest they can. that's the main thing to overcome, really. and it's going to be impossible, because the minute you pipe up with an opinion to that effect you get a ton of angry townspeople with pitchforks chasing after you screaming "COMMIE BASTARDS"
thelovejacket: lol. then the cure is education
thelovejacket: ignorance is the fall of mankind because the rich bastards are by no means evil men, they're just pursue the wrong things by following corrupt ideals. as are the townfolk with pitchfolks et. al. because they have no clue what they're screaming about.
thelovejacket: think about it, if our dumb school boards spend some time teaching us to think for ourselves and adapt some concrete, pure beliefs instead of marinating us in that house-of-DUMB for hours and years with no useful outcome, would the world be a much better place?
thelovejacket: '*wouldn't
Rosenoir14010: most people refer to high school as a place in which you learn how to learn, so that when you study the things you need for your career path, you know best what to do with the knowledge passed around in the classroom.
thelovejacket: i need to get into teaching >.> thats what i have to do.
Rosenoir14010: haha
Rosenoir14010: you'll get yourself fired
Rosenoir14010: i think you hit the nail on the head though
Rosenoir14010: we need to change the ideal
Rosenoir14010: because right now everyone grows up thinking "I'm going to be a wealthy businessman with a huge house and a beautiful family"
Rosenoir14010: instead of "I'm going to help make the world a better place"
Rosenoir14010: the great, inspirational ads on TV inspire young men to "be all they can be" bettering themselves, apparently, by going out and killing other people in the army.
thelovejacket: i considered your point, and it very true. its your emotional crazy stage where you learn who you are and how to interact - that’s great. however! (i'll be above firing. they can fire angry words. it doesn’t stop me) 12 years diane, 12 years where we are left on our own, left to fall into mediocrity and rules and blind submission. i'm not at all saying that everyone in high school is dumb, no, most of the kids are brilliant, but they are not taught how to question fundamentals and look outside the high school walls. it bothers me how people in college need instructions. and then instructions explained 20 times. i have it how everyone is either a) dependent on the grade or b) doesn’t give a fuck at all. both of these are so so so terribly wrong. (lol about the adds. the army is story of its own. initially needed it to protect fragile borders in the dark ages haha. people who say warfare is natural to the 'beastly' man are dumb. there is nothing natural about bred, institutionalized, strategic, patient warfare) high school should never be abolished, no, i see these years as truly, a time and place where i essentially grew up the most. BUT 12 years are wasted. 12 years when our FUNDAMENTALS are laid. that is so crucial! to perceive the world by this time as it truly truly is instead of some self-designed delusional vision. the theories these kids have about life make me want to claw my eyes out. their parents are already wrapped up in a 8 to 5 beat and the teachers, aside from being good at what they do specifically, spend no time guiding the kids. there're there for quizzes and "Repetez apres moi". it makes me SAD. it kills me. i want teachers to enlighten kids, to make them like the classes, to look for challenges and questions. it's really not too much to ask for, we're just too use to this numbing system of just "go and get it over with already". a kid who's completely off the track is considered a burden and a humiliation to the system. instead of trying to show the right way kids are just put into DUMBER, more degrading classes like 'basic' and 'box' where they do nothing. nothing! can you believe it? how can an administrator ever, EVER in his or her right mind raise a protest about anything when they oversee and enforce this stupitification?!! ugh. unbelievable. and that’s okay with everyone. the way to succeed is to fall into the system. to do every hw, do pass every quiz, to listen to the rules. it's so empty, so meaningless and void. yes i've learned my quadratic equations, but i learned that before i ever heard or understood Plato's analogy of the cave. it's empty stuffing of the brain. what use is all that (not really all that. we don’t learn THAt much) information when we don't know how to wield it?
Rosenoir14010: mmm
Rosenoir14010:you also have to factor in how far behind the united states is in schooling. we're very lax about everything. we hardly know anything about our own history. french students could probably recite everything about the civil war and then go on to note politics in argentina. we spend the least time in school of any country.
thelovejacket: so its very simple XD start with the kids. upheave the present order and lay a new one
thelovejacket: AND not to mention only less than 40% of school time is spent on actualy learning
thelovejacket: friggin think about how much 'free' time we get and how easy it is to get it
Rosenoir14010: very true. i hate this year in school because i hardly have any academics. it makes it harder to concentrate when i get to the real classes.
thelovejacket: yeah.
thelovejacket: surely 1/2 of senior years is a waste.
thelovejacket: the beginning is still needed, but right after college apps and midterms everything just stops
Rosenoir14010: yeah, really
Rosenoir14010: most of my teachers have no work for me to make up
Rosenoir14010: i have a shitload of french
thelovejacket: XD. oh, the french
Rosenoir14010: lol
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